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Old 12-05-2009, 02:42 PM   #21
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Old 12-05-2009, 03:11 PM   #22
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botters buy TC's to continue botting.... and where do these TC's come from? from purchases from other players.... Glitchless makes money. if your gonna try and argue something, follow it to the end.... not to the point where it supports ur argument.

Glitch is still making money. I highly doubt tc went from 30k to 140k due to botting, that's ur veterans greed... don't blame botting for that.

The impact on the economy in such a small enviroment such as Nod is minimal... if the user base were hundreds of thousands, yeah theyd cause inflation, but a dozen or two folks arent worth the effort for halting. Particularly with all of you clamouring for new content.

Its not a hi priority given that he's trying to maintain an content output to get his loyal users to continue our revenue stream. which you really begin to wonder with how much gold u guys make how much of you hard earned cash your spending... ur using in game currency now to fund your TC habits. You're just bitching becuz your in game gold wont go as far.... stop being cheap and bust open your wallet.

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Old 12-05-2009, 03:25 PM   #23
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Someone mentioned this when Selecthi was banned. Because of the bot he could use MANY more TC's than a normal player. Several times more. If you dont think that people botting can infulence prices think how many one botter can go through in one day. Now take that and multiply it by how many possible botters there are... its alot of tc's that get used and even more that they can buy to sell for real money. It makes a difference.
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Old 12-05-2009, 04:26 PM   #24
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What Selecthi did was circumvent the pay to play system established by the owner of the game, that im not justifying... something like that does deserve being hunted down.

They are complaining about botters in general and glitchless's lack of pursuit.... then in other forums, they are bitching about not being able to stack certain rsources, changing the dmg output of 2H weapons and a myriad of other content and changes.... and wonder why it seems like Jeff is indifferent to botters that arent impacting his revenue stream.

He's trying to keep u guys happy and all u do is demand more. And the botting isnt impacting everyone, the only folks who care about inflation are those usinig in game currency to buy TC's. I would wager that more TCs purchased with real money are done so by players from 20-60 than 60+.

I buy my TC with real currency because my toon cant make the amount of money it needs to purchase them with gold could care less about botters. And even if I could buy with gold, I'd prolly funnel that money into clan or equips, and continue to purchase TC's with real money becuz it supports the developer... and this is one of the best games out there system wise.
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Old 12-05-2009, 05:00 PM   #25
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Druid, you're obviously misinformed, try to keep your spam to a minimum.

Glitchless is actively pursuing botters as we speak.
That's ALL that matters, refrain from meaningless arguments, you don't KNOW what Glitchless wants or is trying to attain, and you have a lot to learn about botting's impact on an established economy. The meaning of this thread was to simply raise awareness, and to keep the game fair for players who work for what they achieve & deserve against players who just bot for it. Economy, Tc prices, your spamming nonsense was never an issue.
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Old 12-05-2009, 06:46 PM   #26
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this has nothing to do with this, but is Seletchi the first to be banned? I personally have worked my hardest without cheats, bots, etc. and figuring the whole game out by myself. I can't get a TC cause the prices have been all over and keep rising FTL. I still remember when TC's only cost 30k.... *sigh*
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:09 AM   #27
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seletchi wasn't banned for botting he was banned for selling TC's for rl money. Though he got those TC's through botting.
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Old 12-06-2009, 03:25 AM   #28
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Flash based games are notoriously easy to write a bot for. The random bosses are what screws things up >.<

what? nvm....


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Old 12-06-2009, 06:14 AM   #29
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ok each day (at skills of 100 and a premium account) you can get 270 min rrt or 4 hours and 30min.

with accell on that takes 1 hour and 30 min to burn through, which leaves 22.5 hours left in the day. thats 9.6 tcs a day.

say we have just 10 people botting in the game, thats 100 tcs a day they are using.

some lvl 80s can make 100k gold in 1 tc (from chests alone). thats 1mil gold a day made from chests. then on top of that most players around lvl 80 will find a drop every 6 or so hours of rrt. (lets say 6) thats 12 drops a day, lets say they are sleeves. thats around 10k each drop. (if they are sheilds, or archery they are more) thats another 120k made from drops.

most people get epics every 10-16 drops. lets say an average of 14. thats 6 epics a week, and now lets say they are grinding in GP or WC, that means they will be able to get the 81 slasher. lets say they get that each time. 800k is the cheapest on the ah atm. thats 4.8mil from that a week.

now lets work it out:

100k per tc, 4.8mil per week in epics, 120k per day on drops. thats: 12.64mil per week made from botting.

out of that they need to spend: (at current price of 140k each) 9.8mil on tcs.

thats still a 2.84mil profit per week.

and thats not selling the trophies aswell.

soo explain to me, how 10 people making that type of cash (let alone 1) dont effect the economy??

i agree with relic, something needs to be done about botters.
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Old 12-06-2009, 10:34 AM   #30
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Old 12-06-2009, 09:16 PM   #31
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Relic your first post says he's not doing enuff... not creative enuff to pull the quote down. So don't come down on me about my comments, you urself said its not enuff. Im just saying that the botting issue really only bothers about 20% of the community, those that purchase their TC's with in game currency.

Other than botting just being cheap in my opinion, it has no impact on me whatsoever, i'd rather have a steady output of new content than a period of inquisition for botters.
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Old 12-06-2009, 09:23 PM   #32
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um smash just proved mathematically how it does effect the economy ... and not just TCs what happens when theres botters to continue smash's lets say 10 botters ... they each get an epic 6 times a week thats 60 epics a week they are farming GP or WC they get 78 suits they get 81 swords they sell those supply goes up and guess what supply vs demand the botters cause people who farm epics to make money to start losing money because of those 60 extra epics a week... compared to a normal person who gets what 1 maybe 2 epics a week if they are lucky ... take a look at any other rpg out therer BOTS MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN THE ECONOMY no matter how many
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Old 12-06-2009, 09:37 PM   #33
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Relic your first post says he's not doing enuff... not creative enuff to pull the quote down. So don't come down on me about my comments, you urself said its not enuff.
Stop to think about why.

I said that then, then is not now.
We have exchanged a few messages/e-mails since the creation of this thread, I am enlightened. Glitchless is in fact doing everything they can do right now.

Thatperson & Smash are precisely correct.
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Old 12-06-2009, 10:07 PM   #34
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then i missed something in between ur post above and your first... chalk it up to PTSD. =S
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Old 12-06-2009, 11:53 PM   #35
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Im just saying that the botting issue really only bothers about 20% of the community, those that purchase their TC's with in game currency.
i buy my tcs through real cash. yet it bothers me.

soo i suggest you get a clue next time.
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