Old 07-28-2013, 04:26 AM   #21
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How was it not a nerf?

Also it's a nerf to all regen users in PvP, not just the high-end ones that people have been complaining about (and because of which we got a higher damage-increase in PvP to prevent draws).

Oh well, at least my arena team has a non-regen tank so I guess we're better off than pre-nerf.
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Old 07-28-2013, 08:37 AM   #22
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The change was just to give a way to fight it back, as Emilia stated, since there was no way to stop it.. and shattering the sacri was just useless because deft recovery would make them draw nearly before the previous effect has faded.
A nerf would've been removing the no-fail upkeep cost. This is just a counter. If no reaper/gravebound triggers, they stay just as OP as before.
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:01 AM   #23
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That's just semantics... Introducing a new counter is the same as a nerf. But if you want to pretend that somehow regen now isn't weaker than before in PvP that's fine. I wouldn't have minded a nerf to high-end regen builds as well, this however is a blanket nerf to all ranges of reg.
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:16 AM   #24
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Gravebound is 100% chance at lvl 100, so no counter for that.
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:18 AM   #25
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Gravebound is 100% chance at lvl 100, so no counter for that.
Sure there is, fight against whips/archer teams only, that's a good counter.
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:26 AM   #26
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That's quite possibly the most retarded reply ever, you just won the internet
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:49 AM   #27
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That's quite possibly the most retarded reply ever, you just won the internet
Hey flippy !
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Old 07-28-2013, 10:46 AM   #28
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Grave bound u must hit for it to proc. staff hits miss alot so u need someone who actually has dex.

Reaper can be resisted
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Old 07-28-2013, 12:26 PM   #29
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Honestly I hope all builds you have worked on for years get nerfed as well. That's it, nothing else.
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Old 07-28-2013, 12:32 PM   #30
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actually thats the story of my life

Archer first,

BUT

I changed to bm when bm were op, then they got overshadowed by like DDs and 2h crushers.

SO

I changed to DD and 2h crusher, and then DOTs and REGEN overshadow it.

NOW

bm are back to op, regen is nerfed, and dots strong agian. So I am currently going bm, as u can see if u inspect me when i farm
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:11 AM   #31
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*switches back to DK/necro to exploit gravebound/reaper*
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