New archery skill impaled arrow

[chrisdj]

unless someone died and made you glitch ( i mean god) then telling me archers are fine is just your opinion which might count for you but unless you've put over 4 yrs into building an archer it doesn't cut anything with me! you dont like this thread fine don't just troll here!

as for dealing with it I am i'm putting a suggestion for an improvement to my class which of course unless your an archer nobody would want! we have 2 skills that don't even work when farming I feel exchanging stun for blind is at least fair !

krim m8 if you headesk with that pointy crown on you'll be walking around with a desk for a helmet!

[Tsurguy]

What you're not understanding is that stun on an archer would break the game. You can get to 12 delay with the correct set up and still deal MASSIVE damage compared to someone else with similar delay and a stun. Also, I know how to build archers, don't complain about not being able to beat people because you are built like a TANK not like a DPS archer. Maybe you're just mad because you found out blocking doesn't work like you want it too. That is no reason for your class to get a massive buff. I'm not trolling, I'm just saying that if you can't beat someone doesn't mean your class needs a buff, perhaps it means you need to re-evaluate your build and make it better.

[flipynifty]

No

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Originally Posted by flipynifty

No

I call fibs and lies, show your work!

[flipynifty]

u(x) = 10x2 and v(x) = e2x
f(x) = 10x2e2x = 10x2 * e2x = u(x) * v(x)

[chrisdj]

Right
(1)anyone that knows me will tell you i am actualy a dps archer I've just always favoured the slower heavier hitting bows
(2) I was 1 of the first shield archers in nod when glitch made it a bit more viable to be one! it was simply more survivabilty & i'm fully aware of it's limitations and penalties and i'm always re-evaluating and trying to stay flexible! to say to me i'm simply mad because i just found out that blocking doesn't work the way i thought borders on an almost childlike dig at me and undermines any premise I would now take you seriously!

to keep on arguing i'm built like a tank, i'm built like a tank just shows you have a very narrow mind! sure i've had to hyberdise because being a pure archer u would last 5 sec's in most situations I might appear to have aspects of a tank and other builds because thats whats been forced upon archers! but i'm a pure archer at the core just trying to make the best of whats on offer

anyway thats about bored the life out me to explain myself to you but consider that a one off heavy sigh!

as for breaking the game rubbish thats what anti stun gems are there for! but where it would help is in farming where blind and arrow rain have no effect! where as having a stun skill does! and of course it would help in pvp if they didn't have a stoic up

and what your not understanding is please remember i'm asking for a 10% chance of stun and no multi target stun hit not a all powerful insta kill button!

so lets not run around overly dramaticly screaming the sky is falling because he dared ask for something i'm scared of archery having!

watches out for desk falling on top of him!

[chrisdj]

and I did start out by asking for this stun skill as well as blind but on consideration we can't have both and I for one would be much happier to have the stun skill which as you point out can be countered i think if this was to happen it would be fair to lose blind for it................. in my humble opinion of course!

[Tsurguy]

Seriously if you can not tell that a blind and a stun do the exact same thing in pve, then you have no idea how anything in this game works. You ARE built like a tank there is no hybrid to your build. If you were a DPS archer you would have on whips or a weapon not a shield. It's kind of pathetic that you say you were "forced" into it. There are plenty of other archers who were not "forced" into building into a certain way that still do absolutely fine pve as well as pvp. For your not understanding of the stun aspect of things okay, I get it. You don't have a character that can stun and do not understand how easy it is to get rid of Stoic gems. a 10% chance at 12 delay is enough to effectively stun lock anyone while still dealing a massive amount of damage behind it. Again, just because YOU can't beat people because YOU didn't build your toon a certain way does not mean that ARCHERS are weak. Why else are there no archers in here begging to be buffed as well? I'm not scared of archery having it, it will break the game if you added it to their build. They already have advantages over other toons, but apparently you don't understand that. Again, just because YOU can't beat someone doesn't mean the build needs a buff. I can't beat a lot of people because my toon isn't built to be pvp at the moment, but that does not mean I want a buff for my build, it just means in order to do things properly in pvp as opposed to pve or what have you, you need to build your toon to do that. Your items make you not a DPS archer not your bow, fyi.

Also note: I'm going archer for arena this season. So me not wanting the stun is against what I'm building for.

[chrisdj]

actualy no there not exactly the same thing! seriously read blind slowly carefuly it's says nearly impossible to land melee ranged and pet attacks! NEARLY! it has no effect against dd or casting of any kind where as stun clearly does stop all attacks when applied ta da!

again i didn't say archers are weak either! I said jack of all trades master of none, we can be good but not outstanding in any one thing
as for my build i also switch to a whip and a few different leg bp's so you carrying thinking what i am if you don't know then all the better for me in arena

as for saying i'm pathetic and no understanding of the game is almost laughable! bringing into an agruement personal slurs rather than facts shows you need to grow up a bit!

obviously you know archery far better than me so good luck with your archery build m8

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It is impossible to land a melee, ranged or pet hit while blind. There is not even a roll for accuracy it is an instant miss no amount of dex or chance to hit will changed that. Blind does work vs casters they might misposition their mouse and accidentally use their CA or use the wrong gem at the wrong time and drain all their reserves. They cannot see if they are dazed or what else is happening during the fight so they might also miss reviving a team mate or miss healing a person.

Blind is fine as is and does not need to be changed. We do not need a stun, and this is coming from an archer.

[chrisdj]

then why does it say nearly impossible and not 100% chance ?

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Originally Posted by chrisdj

then why does it say nearly impossible and not 100% chance ?

Originally Posted by Glitchless

The reason the wording is as it is in the skill descriptions is to comfort the people who see a hit a fraction of a second after the blind or a fraction of a second before the blind appears to wear off. I can say with 100% assurance that blind is working as intended and causing all melee, ranged, and pet hits to miss during the true course of the effect if not the perceived duration by the client.

So sayeth the glitchless, so be-eth the law

[chrisdj]

well never seen that so thanks for pointing that out! makes me feel a little better about blind but i still come down on the side of stun against blind for reasons stated! fairly obvious that glitch is not going to change it so i humbly give up! lol

[Hoodrat]

Originally Posted by chrisdj

i humbly give up! lol

Good idea.