Make arena more competive as a whole ... add more tier rewards

[Tsurguy]

The gap is because there is a such a difference in capabilities of the teams... the top 3 teams completely stand alone when it comes to beating people... There needs to be more competetion between the teams lower to boost their rating to inturn boost everyone rating.

[terrorbladestorm]

To Ryiah:

I have hated that no rating temper thing since the first day it came out. And when I tried to glitch to change it and he wouldn't, I said screw it I am just going use/exploit the system like the rest of NOD. I can understand why glitch did it, to give lower teams a chance. But I think the downside far outweights the benefits

[Lightdrinker]

The fact that hoodrat repeatedly says i am jsut going to do the minimum to hold my spot , is point enoguh for me that most do not arena for the competeion , jsut for the reward and holding on to that reward .


Hopefully glitch will give more people a goal to aim for other then the top 3 ,top 10 , top 100 lvls

Since you no longer need to push for rating for tempers .

[Hoodrat]

Originally Posted by Lightdrinker

The fact that hoodrat repeatedly says i am jsut going to do the minimum to hold my spot , is point enoguh for me that most do not arena for the competeion , jsut for the reward and holding on to that reward .


Hopefully glitch will give more people a goal to aim for other then the top 3 ,top 10 , top 100 lvls

Since you no longer need to push for rating for tempers .

As I stated, we went THE WHOLE SEASON TO REACH OUR SPOT, there was competition the whole way there. Just because we reached our goal and are coasting in does not mean we did not earn it. Perhaps you should have started arena seariously sooner if you want the top spot. Last minute decisions have their drawbacks, too.

[Lightdrinker]

OK instead of increasing rewards in top 10 make it
4th gets 10 tcs
5th gets 9 tcs
6th gets 8 tcs
7th gets 7tcs
8th gets 6 tcs
9th gets 5 tcs
10th gets 4 tcs
11th threw 15th gets 3 tcs
15-25 gets 2 tcs

Redsistribute the aawards already giving to more people so more people fight for the toop.

[-Ryiah-]

Originally Posted by Hoodrat

My team has adapted to a few other teams to keep our spot. We didn't just grind up against easy teams and now "hold our spot." My point i s we reached our spot before rush week came, so we are going to do everything to keep it, even if it is just arenaing the 4 matches per day. If a rush team is going to come along and complain about it, then perhaps you should have not waited until the last week where there is a rating bonus to grind to the top. Instead, you should work the whole season like the others and perhaps there would not be so much of a spread in points. We fought for our spot the whole season, now it is time to keep it.

The whole point of this thread (that you are obviously missing) is the fact, there is nothing to really make people fight it out in arena, instead of sitting on their tots comfortably throughout all rankings avoiding any team that may or maynot take rating from them. BTW we didnt "grind up against easy teams" if you look in the arena rush thread in recent patch disccussion http://forums.nodiatis.com/forums/sh...ad.php_t=15806 you will see, we were ranked 15 at the start of arena rush week. albeit we rushed to the top within the week, we put as much hard work into arena as all the other top teams did, and to say we didn't or aren't deserving as you so nicely put it, is a crock. You may have fought for your spot the whole season, but you just as easily lost it to a "supposed rush team"

We entered the que knowing there are teams that will beat us, but the rating gained from beating other teams was enough to strive for first. We are very competitive and hoped there would be more competition. props to team cyress, and emiliastormrage team for giving us epic fights. even knowing they could lose rating, they still qued. i have great respect for these 2 top 10 teams, who showed their fighting spirit.! both deserve their spots. although i do believe emilia's team, should have finished higher

[Hoodrat]

Originally Posted by -Ryiah-

The whole point of this thread (that you are obviously missing) is the fact, there is nothing to really make people fight it out in arena, instead of sitting on their tots comfortably throughout all rankings avoiding any team that may or maynot take rating from them. BTW we didnt "grind up against easy teams" if you look in the arena rush thread in recent patch disccussion http://forums.nodiatis.com/forums/sh...ad.php_t=15806 you will see, we were ranked 15 at the start of arena rush week. albeit we rushed to the top within the week, we put as much hard work into arena as all the other top teams did, and to say we didn't or aren't deserving as you so nicely put it, is a crock. You may have fought for your spot the whole season, but you just as easily lost it to a "supposed rush team"

We entered the que knowing there are teams that will beat us, but the rating gained from beating other teams was enough to strive for first. We are very competitive and hoped there would be more competition. props to team cyress, and emiliastormrage team for giving us epic fights. even knowing they could lose rating, they still qued. i have great respect for these 2 top 10 teams, who showed their fighting spirit.! both deserve their spots. although i do believe emilia's team, should have finished higher

Not my fault you waited until the last week to get serious and can't catch the #1 team now. Don't wait until rush week bonus next season and you might have a chance. Good luck !

[Tsurguy]

The complaint is about the way around works not about being #1 or not lol

[Jesspalm]

Spending the whole day in arena only in the final week to try to capitalize on the rating boost through wins is not "Hard work."

Starting 3 weeks away from end of season to get to 15th as fast as possible is not "Hard work."

People like cyress, like hoodie, Like pony, like Ladygagya.. The teams that had been scraping it out since the beginning of the season when actual work was required to gain rating and keep it all throughout the season, not just in the span of less than a month is hard work. If you don't like the fact that you can't screwball your way in last second because people aren't going to up and ruin the position they worked hard for, by handing points to a team that is by far undeserving of their standing, perhaps you should actually have been spending all that time earning your spot rather than running your mouth needlessly and calling out people who actually put the time and effort into the game here. Of course the only response to this will be some indignant reply about how it was earned by effectively abusing the system, and how "they should have been ready."

It's funny how someone who only attacks the teams when it's most viable and have very little time to adapt can be so high and mighty about their skills.

[Hoodrat]

There are two ways to play arena "competitively" :

1. Farm all season and hold your spot.
2. Wait until rush week and hurry on up.

Pick one and deal with it.

Yes, it is broken and frustrating. Yes, the rewards are outdated and arena needs to be reworked.

[Tsurguy]

Are you trying to actually say that they don't deserve their spot if they only lose to the top team consistently? Just because they didn't get serious until the last week does not mean that the team wasn't formed MONTHS ago. There is no point in doing arena all season when all people do is dodge, I'm sorry that's the way the system works if glitch intends it to or not. There should be competition in arena not people blatantly dodging teams so that they don't lose their precious spot. I know Cyress, Ripple, Merrick, Ryiah, Trojan, Kensei All love the competition and that's why they don't leave queue when they're in. This post isn't about bitching because they can't get first. It's to try and change it so that it IS more fun to arena and not a chore. Honestly what is the point in "scraping it out since the beginning of the season when actual work was required" when you can just do it in one weeks time? THAT is the problem with arena, it lasts too long, there is no point in doing it all season if your team is strong enough to take your rightful place in a few weeks time. Yes it sucks for the other teams that had been up there, but if they cannot beat the "rush teams" then why should they be where they are?

[Jesspalm]

We have beat them. If it was really about competition, they would have been involved in the competition from the start. It's not actually about being competitive, it's about being pissy they can't worm up last second.

[Oneangel]

Rush teams that shoot to the top are annoying cos it would be far more fun to fight against them the whole season, have a realistic view of how good you are and be satisfied with the challenge you face. It also brings luck into play for the teams that happen to face them at their lowest ratings loosing far more than those that happen to avoid them until they are at a more realistic rating and the unlucky teams would find this quite demotivating. However its not against the rules, is nothing new, and if they get to the top then their team was obviously good enough to deserve to be there on merit/skill. Until there is a rule change, there is nothing to complain about the players using this system, only the system itself.

[Glitchless]

We'll be making some changes to arenas next season to increase participation including several suggestions or variants of suggestions here.

In response to those (possibly in other threads) saying there is an issue with the actual rating system beyond that of it potentially making you feel bad at times, please list all the teams that were ranked above yours that you felt your team was actually superior to and we can all analyze the validity of your claim. Our opinion on the matter is as long as you queue up enough you will end up in the place you belong.

Arena rewards will be given out tomorrow morning.

[RogueTigeR]

Originally Posted by Jesspalm

Spending the whole day in arena only in the final week to try to capitalize on the rating boost through wins is not "Hard work."

Starting 3 weeks away from end of season to get to 15th as fast as possible is not "Hard work."

People like cyress, like hoodie, Like pony, like Ladygagya.. The teams that had been scraping it out since the beginning of the season when actual work was required to gain rating and keep it all throughout the season, not just in the span of less than a month is hard work.

You're forgetting, or maybe just being ignorant of the fact that there ARE extra rewards already in place for those teams who start earlier.....Arena Currency...TOKENS!!!! Playing just enough games to get you into 15th place to finish will only allot so many tokens for the most valuable reward of the arena system: tempers. So the teams that have been in a higher place or put together longer do have an advantage already for the next season, which they should.

[>.>]

arena with alts all season = high personal rating and lots of tokens

rush is announced, make a real team

your high personal rating will pull in high rated black teams before you get people your own level

you don't need tokens because you amassed them all season with your alts and still can jump into the top with a rush boosted team.

[Jesspalm]

The potential outcome of later seasons has nothing to do with the current season. And speaking of ignorance, Would it not then benefit said people to be in arena long enough to get these tokens rather than trying to one up everyone in the last seconds when no one has time to adjust or prove that they are in fact better?

Take some time to actually come up with a logical explanation before you talk.

[Tsurguy]

I would buy that Jess, if you even remotely dented the team you're referring too. A few matches is all you need to see what you need to do to win.

[Jesspalm]

Again, I've already beaten them. If you're so well aware of my ability vs. that team, then perhaps you're part of why they're able to be in all day long? Account sharing is bad mkay.

I see few other reasons why you'd be so invested in false information.

[Tsurguy]

You beat them once, before they changed their set-up that hardly constitutes you consistently beating them. The only team that consistently beats their team is Cyress, Ripple and Merrick's team and silverlink, emilia, kgam team on and off. Judging off this I would say that they deserve the second place. Again this thread isn't to bash the way you guys sit in top ten. It's to try and make arena more competitive. You all take everything WAY too personally. Maybe you're just that into yourself that you think everything is about you. I dunno but yay off topic.

But to say they aren't deserving of their spot is just moronic. When they only consistently lose to the one team above them.