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Old 03-27-2013, 12:10 PM   #21
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What's N. Lake?

Also pierce is all about min damage and consistency, so don't complain that you can't hit as hard as Slash and Crush.
Once again, learn to read. I am not complaining, I am trying to think of a way to have piercers match up to crushers/slashers. Get out of the thread if you have nothing but sarcasm to contribute please.
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Old 03-27-2013, 01:31 PM   #22
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Not being sarcastic. You want equality when it is unequal by design because each type has a different specialization.
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Old 03-27-2013, 01:36 PM   #23
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Increase rogue's damage bonus an increase by 10% glitchy.
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:17 PM   #24
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Not being sarcastic. You want equality when it is unequal by design because each type has a different specialization.
Piercer's "specialization" is really defended against very well in PvP, and slashers/crushers STILL get extra bonuses from gear... how is that equal? Also, in farming, how should a crusher/slasher farm faster than a piercer in a high level zone??
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Increase rogue's damage bonus an increase by 10% glitchy.
No, don't focus on a Class because some piercers or pierce users are not Rogue, and there will be more seeing then new 1H piercer drop.... revamp the weapon type to make it somewhat useful in end game PvE/PvP. OR tweak it a little bit.
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:25 PM   #26
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Old 03-27-2013, 07:15 PM   #27
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I say maybe buff piercers a bit, to put into league with Slashers and Crushers, not a big change but enough to notice.
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Old 03-27-2013, 07:45 PM   #28
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I say improve Piercer hit chance.
Piercers should be the most accurate weapons.
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Old 03-27-2013, 07:53 PM   #29
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I say improve Piercer hit chance.
Piercers should be the most accurate weapons.
Something like this, and maybe poisonblt to hit through mitigation also !
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Old 03-27-2013, 08:48 PM   #30
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I am done trying to bring light to an inferior weapon choice. Happy trolling.
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:03 PM   #31
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there is no reason why crusher or a DDer can rip threw a tank faster then a piercer can with almost 900 dex.... Glitch this needs to be looked into please. I belive the piercers are underpowered... AND NO I do not even own a piercer or a toon with one.. I just watch what happens in arena and PVP
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:32 PM   #32
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I agree with Master, but I am a 2h Piercer.
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:32 PM   #33
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New skill.... Shank, this skill provides at level 100 to shank your enemy really fast and attacking 5times
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Old 03-27-2013, 11:16 PM   #34
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We'll look into pierce and run tests again to see if there is a change needed. Our guess is that 2H pierce might, but that 1H pierce is probably near or at the top of the heap for melee with the new items and changes that have occurred since the last tests.
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Old 03-27-2013, 11:23 PM   #35
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Thank you Glitch.
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:17 AM   #36
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...if only there was more lg 1h piercers that were meant for dw'ing piercers. i can see 1 only. obvious bias because most of the player-base is not piercer. that massive dmg 1h slasher with the 1h piercer for combining w/ slasher would be good, but that slasher is unavailable, same with the 2nd 2h piercer. please make it worth it for these selfish people to share, ty!
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We'll look into pierce and run tests again to see if there is a change needed. Our guess is that 2H pierce might, but that 1H pierce is probably near or at the top of the heap for melee with the new items and changes that have occurred since the last tests.
thank you.

ive been 2h pierce for 1 of the longest times, i quit for a year, and i came back to find that 1h had been buffed, crush had, slash had, casters had (DD im not sure about), bm had, hell everything BUT 2h pierce had been.

Its not like i have crappy skills, but i still cant do as well as other weapon types. Yes, pierce is more focused on min damage, but even that is lacking compared to other weapon types damage output now.

something to bring us back up to par, so that we can compete again, would be awesome glitch.
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Old 03-28-2013, 05:52 AM   #38
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Perhaps a simple buff would be making demonskull armor add to min damage if piercer equipped instead of max?
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:34 AM   #39
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Perhaps just improve spike rune. Such rune of rank 5 adds 5 points to min weapon damage which is pretty worthless. Suggest change it to 20% per rank so rank 5 rune will add 100% to min damage.
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Old 03-28-2013, 07:06 AM   #40
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I would welcome a revamped spike rune.
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