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02-17-2013, 06:18 PM
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Rare Collector
Conqueror is offline
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You guys are crying about nothing.
Team up with people that you trust and make a deal as a team about how you will sell your masters. Everyone profits.
The idea that one person should be able to keep a lg is stupid. Glitchless does not make items for one person (no matter how much that person pays for said item). The items are meant for everyone "that can afford them."
Looks like one master sold for 20 million and 2 sold for 12 m something per. Thats fine. The people that got the drop still made a profit.
Adjust. The game changes. Move on.
And no this patch does not make lg's free. Cost wise, it will hardly make a difference. The crafting costs are still the same. The resins for a bow alone still cost 8 m; bp 6m; consumable making costs are still about 4 to 5 million. T30 materials still cost a fortune. I fail to see how crafting will now be free (considering that only a few people actually make lg items and can pretty much dictate their crafting fees).
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02-17-2013, 06:27 PM
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Boss Hunter
Moordenaar is offline
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No Trojan I'm saying to force out copies of those things you don't have cuz you want to monopolize everything for yourself is not necessary at this time. So sorry you couldn't get a hold of every single LG and the person who luckily got the drop won't share with you. I haven't said if this new way is better either so don't put words in my mouth...on my fingertips? I agree with Glitch at this moment the new way is being whinned about so much cuz it doesn't give the elitists all the power to run the economy and the power of who is the best with the best gear anymore. Suck it up yes you (the elite core capped players) have played and devoted your time more than the newer players...and yes in some cases yall have spent more money into this game (your own choice) but how does that give you the right to stand above the newer players that are striving to compete?
The funnest game is one that is balanced and allows competition throughout the community.
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02-17-2013, 06:32 PM
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Rare Collector
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All this elitist stuff is a bunch of nonsense too. Its hoopla about nothing. All that has changed is that the beast drops 3 items instead of 1 now.
And everyone is running around in panic mode like ... omg 2 additional items ruined the lg market and the world is coming to an end and nawd is ruined.
/whine /whine /whine
Trojan got his masters for a cheaper amount. He was still asking for 5m per weapon and 1 million per armor piece crafting fees last I heard. I don't understand the complaining. Makes no sense to me. If anything, he profits from this patch.
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I agree that seeing an actual legendary item is a lot more exciting but I don't think that this patch changes anything in the end.
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02-17-2013, 06:40 PM
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Seer's BFF
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And Trojan, your lack of understanding or purposeful misleading of people about the implications of the new LG master drops is getting tiresome. Nobody is going to spend millions to buy a master only to produce copies for free
Oh u got me there glitch :
We at trojans lg crafting service will match any competiors price and beat it . Conquerer i dont charge thatmuch to craft anything check my post in ah section of forums .
New crusher currently being offered at 2 mill per tp with free crafting when u are ready .
Ty i jsut liked the old way more were i mad more enemies for destroying monoplies by making my own master of popular items will adapt and carry on :P
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02-17-2013, 07:04 PM
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Rare Collector
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A morphing system for lg weapons would be nice (kind of like the morphing system for lg armors). Currently, there is only one real way to get lg weapons (get them crafted). Morphing will provide an additional way to obtain them.
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02-17-2013, 09:30 PM
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Smashbros is offline
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Originally Posted by Trojan
And Trojan, your lack of understanding or purposeful misleading of people about the implications of the new LG master drops is getting tiresome. Nobody is going to spend millions to buy a master only to produce copies for free
Oh u got me there glitch :
We at trojans lg crafting service will match any competiors price and beat it . Conquerer i dont charge thatmuch to craft anything check my post in ah section of forums .
New crusher currently being offered at 2 mill per tp with free crafting when u are ready .
Ty i jsut liked the old way more were i mad more enemies for destroying monoplies by making my own master of popular items will adapt and carry on :P
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do you gonna match it or beat it??
and why say you will offer em for free, when you just said you wouldnt??
dude, everything you say, stinks of crap.
hows about, you walk away from the computer, get your story straight, and then come back here
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We are well aware of the over-dramatic reactions to game changes in an effort to skew perception. It doesn't work, just makes them look like cry babies.
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02-17-2013, 10:00 PM
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Epic Scholar
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What do you think legendary beasts will drop after they've dropped the full list of legendaries? Obviously they'll at some point drop duplicates just as they have dropped duplicates of pets.
And Trojan, your lack of understanding or purposeful misleading of people about the implications of the new LG master drops is getting tiresome. Nobody is going to spend millions to buy a master only to produce copies for free. Right now there's just posturing between those who own them (you being one of them) where you're trying to psyche out the other person and convince them that their master plans have no value. Master plans, mats, and LG crafters are needed to make LGs and LGs are the most valuable items in the game. The fact that master copies are now going to be lowered in value only increases the chance that there will actually be some competition between multiple crafters. You or someone else may make a handful of free copies out of spite, but it won't continue that way for long, buying master copies just to produce copies for free.
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02-19-2013, 03:42 PM
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Gem Pouch Expert
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I wish the dragonsorrow shield didnt exist, same with the R6 Invent ... Would make people really work to get to lvl 120 crafting skill  As it is I feel that it's too easy to achieve LG Crafting ability
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02-19-2013, 06:45 PM
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Boss Hunter
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I wish the dragonsorrow shield didnt exist, same with the R6 Invent ... Would make people really work to get to lvl 120 crafting skill  As it is I feel that it's too easy to achieve LG Crafting ability
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I somewhat agree with you mate, but then again, everything in nod is getting easier
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02-20-2013, 05:06 PM
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Gem Pouch Expert
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As far as the RoI rank 6. No one has one activated yet. Even then, it will only cut out the crafting and naturalist 99 hell level. Easier, but still not a breeze.
You have a point about tehDragonsorrow shield, but still getting to 100 blocking and dropping close to 14 million gold just to cut out 5 levels isn't exactly a breeze either.
TBH, boon/pk bonus did more to make crafting LGs easier than either of the above did.
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02-28-2013, 12:21 AM
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No Glitch YOU are wrong. I mean do you not even understand how an economy works?
Point is you have a group of 3 friends. They all get the same TP, instant drama and fighting. 3 Masters, or TP's per beast WILL cause alot of turmoil and even overload the server with masters and TP's.
People will eventually try to lower prices to compete with eachother.
Causing even more turmoil and drama.
Someone starts crafting for free because he is sick (much like the man you insulted here is already doing with previous LGs)
And you then have countless crafters who are practically worthless. And voila, I just explained how you just cut your own games jugular.
I mean look at everyone who already owns master of old weapons crying like babies at just the THOUGHT of their precious money makers being replicated without their consent.
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02-28-2013, 12:25 AM
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And for the record, I have been getting my custom LG's crafted for free from a friend ( I tipped him well each time however but he asked for nothing )
The problem was actually getting your hands on the TP. I still sit with a Hydra Fang Dagger master in my inventory. I sold 3 of them, making a total of about 6 million gold. Then have people who actually spent like 20 million or so to replicate someone elses LG's just to spite them, and undercut them.
So yea, perfect solution. Go ahead put in more of them.. 
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