Old 08-21-2012, 11:29 AM   #61
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what I am graced with is a very low tolerance level for BS.
What you are graced with young fella, is a low tolerance for the opinions of others. You play the game for a few days then seem to feel some sense of entitlement, that the game should be changed to suit you. Is it really such a big deal to you to kill a few mobs?

Anyway, since you're so keen for a formal rebuttal of your points I'll try to oblige:

1. unlike the killing and boss quests, which actually become easier to complete as you level, the collection quests become increasingly harder to complete until becoming practically impossible if they become gray mobs.

We've give you two separate ways to avoid this. It doesn't have to happen. Do you have accel? Cos for a 10-drop collection quest you'd only need 4 stacks of (3) trophies. In general, all capped players will think in accel terms unless otherwise indicated.

2. there is nothing anywhere letting newbs know any of the tricks to circumvent or prevent this from happening.

Except by learning from experience or asking other players, which multiple people have suggested you do and have offered to help.

3. by the time us newbs figure out there's a problem it's already too late.

At level 9 isn't too late for anything. Reroll. Boon. How hard is it to get to level 9?

4. you can only delevel so much and it's not an ideal position or situation to find yourself being forced into to begin with.

If you were a little better at listening to advice this wouldn't be an issue. You were only lvl 7 when we discussed this first. You could have delevelled to lvl 4 at that point. How many quests could be grey to you at level 4? Even now, for the exp you'll get at lvl 9, it's not worth getting yer knickers in a twist over. Delevlel to 6 if you want. Skip a couple of quests if you want, then move to a higher zone when you can be sure to get plenty of kills in before your level goes up.


Honestly, and I say this without malice...(mostly).....if you put half the effort you're putting into this thread into interacting with knowledgeable players and listening to their advice, you'd be in a far better position.


What's causing the grief here is that you're demanding everyone see things from your point of view but you refuse to even try to see things from our point of view.

Your points are opinions, nothing more. Not facts. Not scripture. It's not a case of "this is broken, it needs fixed". You don't like the current quest system. That's fair enough. But I think it's fine the way it is. Neither of us are right, neither of us are wrong. Bear that in mind.
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:16 PM   #62
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ok, about done with playing nice, and yes, despite all the "you're a real jerk", I promise you haven't seen the half of it. since everyone is so keen on making judgements, let me give you just a glimpse into the mind you're dealing with (not that you really care but I'll share it anyway) so that maybe you can at least attempt to make an accurate assessment.

I was born into one cult, inducted into another run by a pedo at 13. prior to that, my mom took off on me and my dad and I was suicidal at 8. by 14 I was living on the streets, by 15 in juvi as a ward of the state. I lost the 2 years between 16 and 18 to alcohol and drugs to keep from losing my mind or blowing my brains out. I spent the first 20 years of my life trying to dismantle and take myself apart and it took me another 20 years to pick up all the broken pieces and put humpty dumpty back together again starting with the military, and even then I'm not sure all the pieces are in all the right places.

I'm a war vet, married and divorced who worked my @$$ off to support 2 kids and their unappreciative mother prior to having my job outsourced and sent to Mexico thanks to NAFTA, so I'm about as antisocial as they come, but at least I try to get along. I'm probably some therapist's wet dream. OCD, PTSD, you name it, I've probably got it. I probably have enough acronyms to make a bowl of alphabet soup look like a literacy campaign.

I regard most people about like I regard a cockroach, with a few exceptions to the general rule. most scream at the top of their lungs we don't share a common ancestor with apes, but do nothing but act like caged chimps in a carnival sideshow slinging their own feces and poo in the faces of passersby and spectators. I've survived all of it without a shred of help. I find most "experts" on any given subject matter only slightly more intelligent than those that listen to them.

so now, how can I put this delicately? what's the title of this thread? can you read? are you an admin? are you a developer? if you're not either of those things then you're posting in the wrong thread friend. frankly, I've listened, and in spite of all the negative feedback, not a single solitary person posting in this thread has listed the first negative consequence or impact on gameplay that my suggestion would have.

not one. they've spent the whole time trying to pick me and my suggestion apart with negative feedback about how I'm a noob or a snob and need to play the game and get my feet wet. this thread was from a noob's perspective so its you who have completely missed the point. others have said they want new players and not trying to run anybody off, but actions speak louder than words.

maybe when a noob tells you the repititious quest cycle is killing interest in your pet game, at least for his kid who he's desperately trying to get involved and have an interest in so he can have some time with, its you all who should be doing the listening.
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Old 08-21-2012, 02:16 PM   #63
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What a pile of self-indulgent tripe.

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frankly, I've listened, .
You've done nothing of the sort. So why should I?
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Old 08-21-2012, 04:36 PM   #64
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LOL! after all that, THAT'S the best you can come back at me with? c'mon, at least try to make this a challenge. ok, chief. tell ya what. you now have my undivided attention (as if that were a good thing). here's your big chance to impress and shine.

prove to me you're not just another chimp screeching at the top of its lungs and thumping its chest. so far you guys have just been flinging poo at the wall hoping something will stick.

Glitch recently posted in another suggestion thread ...

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There's no downside to this, it's something we'll have to consider when looking to do client patches.
this was in regard to the clickable inventory. now mind you, the inventory system wasn't broken either. it didn't need a "fix", but nonetheless someone suggested a useful addition to functionality, pretty much like what I suggested.

nothing is broken, per se and nothing really changes from the player standpoint. all quests remain exactly as they are. same order and everything, but if you so choose and have already collected the items for the next collection quest, you have the option to complete it.

so be the first to explain the downside, drawback or negative impact on any part of gameplay that would result from this. besides, I'm getting tired of playing "rope-a-dope". here's all the rope you need to hang yourself.

put your money where your mouth is and either put up or shut up. gimme a legit downside and I'll stand down.
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Old 08-21-2012, 04:56 PM   #65
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Syn: "I write things so long and horribly organised that nobody bothers to read them. Surely this is because they are uneducated."
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:32 PM   #66
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prove to me you're not just another chimp screeching at the top of its lungs and thumping its chest. so far you guys have just been flinging poo at the wall hoping something will stick.
nobody takes clowns seriously.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:59 PM   #67
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Syn: "I write things so long and horribly organised that nobody bothers to read them. Surely this is because they are uneducated."
nobody takes clowns seriously.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:32 AM   #68
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Downside? It's a pointless change. How hard is it to get ten drops fur fox ache?
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:33 AM   #69
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Downside? It's a pointless change. How hard is it to get ten drops fur fox ache?
translation: "I gots nuttin' ..."
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