Bladow! - Page 4

Nighthawk · 08-09-2011, 03:13 AM

My understanding of your post was that you can hit this with dual wield 81/94 slasher and yet I have just inspected you and you are using a 2H slasher. I know 2H weapons can hit this hard which is why I am saying it is time for dual wield to have a buff since everything else has now been buffed and dual wield has been left behind.

Oh yeah and nice nerd rage....I think I've seen a video of you on youtube...

Jadakris · 08-09-2011, 03:15 AM

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And some more Mega crits, From Xela (91 Bow,88 arrow, 78 quiver)
362 INT
337 CNC
Not that it means much..

Jadakris · 08-09-2011, 03:28 AM

1 The point is that was a hit on a +10 mob, is has nothing to do with DW.. I never said DW was OP but its also not weak, espcially with the proper build and a shield..

This is the part that sickens me about buff me threads, people bitch and moan about things they haven't even fully tried..

And Jerzy if u haz yet to see a 1k+ hit from a 99 1h Slasher or don't see one atleast once per battle, you should just sell it to me and I'll show you how to use it properly

Jadakris · 08-09-2011, 03:40 AM

And this is a deathblow/veng crit from my 94 1h Slasher.. other than this I've hit a few hundred more.. and when im no in vengance I can still hit above 900-1.1k...

I agree you don't crit nearly enough and miss aton..but legendaries change the game..

Jerzy · 08-09-2011, 04:46 AM

No reason to get that sweet cap of yours turned sideways, Jada, we were discussing DW slash...as in:

If you are saying you can hit this with an 81/94 slasher combo then I'm sorry but I think you must be looking at something else.

I was simply saying that I didn't see how a 1h slash could hit for 3k...you were talking about 2h slash hitting for 3k. No reason to get so fired up. This isn't Boyz In the Hood...no one was trying to "dis" you or diminish your Nodiatis street cred. I'm sure you are an uber build as you do black and such for fun. In terms of DW slash, though, I do think they are at a disadvantage to (I'm speaking of melee classes) whips, 2h (all), DW crush, and now, archers. Just my opinion...

Killda · 08-09-2011, 05:25 AM

just to clear things up Jada .... we are talking about Dual Wield slashers now (you know one sword in each hand)....

I don't doubt that you can do all shinny damage you put in your screenshots ... with your 94 2h Slasher (that is only one weapon)

if you still didn't get it here is a summary:
- dual wield = 2 weapons (one in each hand)
- two handed = only 1 weapon (carried from both hands)

And if you still didn't get it after that ... then i'm sorry for you

Jadakris · 08-09-2011, 08:24 AM

I am also talkign about DW slashers.. an 81 AND a 94! The 1.4k hit was from the 94, it isn't just flashy damage, its fast damage once you level up duel wield ..

Not as flashy but the damage is alot more consistant.

I'm sorry you didn't have enough Nod knowledge to know the difference between an 85 2h slasher, and a 81/94 slasher combo <- This part means TWO ONE HANDERS

Ahh yes, simple misunderstanding Jerzy Ofc I was talking about my 2H slash critting 3k's.. I do wonder if I would be able to break 2k with the 99's tho.. Damn shame the TP's are so rare

I also think that DW is abit underpowered, mostly in terms of accuracy and less crits.. more damage wouldn't hurt.. But I think They should get higher crit % and slightly better accuracy to compensate for the 2h's ability to deal massively larger crits..

And slasher do need some type of PvP based proc, or atleast a way to rupture/speed bleeds..

Jerzy · 08-09-2011, 12:40 PM

If Glitchless and team would consider letting rupture or something similar apply to 1h slashers (and I think that was asked once before on the forums in regards to the 81 1h slash proc, but I can't find the thread, atm) that would be a nice addition.

Jadakris · 08-10-2011, 09:22 PM

Actually the bleed procs do help as I'm sure you noticed with your 99's.. But none the less the 81 proc really doesn't make sense imo..

Smashbros · 08-10-2011, 11:40 PM

if rupture was to come in for slash, id be pissed that it wasnt for ALL meleers.

Jadakris · 08-12-2011, 01:55 AM

It wouldn't make sense for it to be for anything BUT slash..

I want to be able to deal nearly as much as I do with bloodlet as I do my max hits, but that won't happen.. And I wanna be able to stun for 4 seconds but gthat won't happen..

Slash has a lame proc, just like the two archery skills here were changed because its simply outdated with how much the game has changed. And even normal DoT damage was buffed..

Smashbros · 08-12-2011, 03:01 AM

slash has a bleed proc, that stacks with pet bleeds.

making massive bleeds, if it was to rupture = insane damage.

pierce is a min based weapon, which makes rogue an obvious choice as a class since bonus to min, which has a bonus to Poison gems. which are DoT, which makes more sense to have a rupture.

hence why ALL melee (besides whippers) should have the ability to rupture at a small %.

Roeth · 08-12-2011, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smashbros

hence why ALL melee (besides whippers) should have the ability to rupture at a small %.

Yeah, whippers are massively OP, just look at them all, farming solo in N lake with 10 second kills, the teams of whippers dominating arena, winning it every season ...

Season 1, top 10 arena teams, no BMs
Season 2, top 10 arena teams, 1 BM
Season 3, top 10 arena teams, 2 BMs.

So out of those 90 toons, 3 were BMs. OP ? Really ?

I mean, all these capped toons, especially casters, rerolling to BM, because its so massively OP.

/sarcasm, anyone ?

Smashbros · 08-12-2011, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roeth

Yeah, whippers are massively OP, just look at them all, farming solo in N lake with 10 second kills, the teams of whippers dominating arena, winning it every season ...

Season 1, top 10 arena teams, no BMs
Season 2, top 10 arena teams, 1 BM
Season 3, top 10 arena teams, 2 BMs.

So out of those 90 toons, 3 were BMs. OP ? Really ?

I mean, all these capped toons, especially casters, rerolling to BM, because its so massively OP.

/sarcasm, anyone ?

only reason i say not whippers, is cause of the massive bleed damage they have, from their pet crits. its not cause they are OP, but giving them a skill that can trigger a rupture of pet bleeds would make them OP beyond believe.

as is, you can get yetis critting for 1k each, which adds 1k in bleed, have 4 lots of those, thats 8k damage done, and 8k in DoT effect, if it ruptured, thats a 16k damage in a few seconds.

this is nothing against whippers, its simply a way to balance it out in regards to the damage done.

lankas · 08-12-2011, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roeth

Yeah, whippers are massively OP, just look at them all, farming solo in N lake with 10 second kills, the teams of whippers dominating arena, winning it every season ...

Season 1, top 10 arena teams, no BMs
Season 2, top 10 arena teams, 1 BM
Season 3, top 10 arena teams, 2 BMs.

So out of those 90 toons, 3 were BMs. OP ? Really ?

I mean, all these capped toons, especially casters, rerolling to BM, because its so massively OP.

/sarcasm, anyone ?

I disagree. there were a lot more whippers, you cant calculate only whippers - bms as class.
No, they cant kill in 10s in Nlake, its for sure, and except casters, noone can, but whippers can be masively op in tanking, and in same time they deal huge dmg with pets. Take Arach - best tank in Nod, and average whiiper, I want to see who would win pvp, if no rabit aura on. Same with any other class except casters, caster vs whippers depends on luck, how many times caster will be resisted with growl. Give whipper a skill like bladow, and he will kill everyone in few seconds - few crits, and bleeds do everything else

Jadakris · 08-15-2011, 04:03 PM

There's a huge difference between A rogue and a slasher.. A melee based class shouldn't be able to rupture GEMS. That is completely different. A slasher can get "huge bleeds" but at the cost of what.. The bleeds barely make up for the loss in damage compared to the 4 second stun of crushers, and Piercers a GARUNTEED X Amount of Damage.. Also at the cost of having a better class other than a BM (I know other classes cause bleeds with whips but my point is that a BM is the only way to get max potential.. and this is also the same as Roeth was saying)

But your asking for a melee class to be able to rupture poison DoTs (which also get buffed from the dot skills, aswell as legendaries and epics..)..

Where is a bleed form a slasher can get no better... EVER. So thank you for pointing out yet another reason why slash is underpowered, even to what was once thought to be one of the worst weapon classes PvP..